Minister Francesco Boccia, the level of confrontation with Renzi rises: are you one step away from breaking up? 'Needless to hide, not to show up in the Council of Ministers and to threaten a minister's distrust is to take a step towards breaking up.' Is it inevitable? "No, we cannot allow the country to relive the #8217;nightmare experienced for 15 months, as demonstrated by the clear reaction, with the back straight, of Conte and the Pd." Renzi, however, defends a principle, which has been the Pd's, and defends the guarantee.

"None of us have ever renounced that principle, but we cannot even exploit it. We have said a thousand times that we are aiming for a process that does not last more than five to six years. Reformists make reforms, destroyers break alliances." Italy alive does not accept reform. "At the tables of justice, Italy alive has only place aut aut. But that is only one piece of reform." Is yours an attitude aimed at winning plaudits in the polls? "I don't know and we care little. It's incomprehensible. There will be a reason if three out of four forces, even discussing a lot, are always in #8217 agreement and one is not.' C’is the one who says it's a character fact: "Renzi is done like this". "I can't answer, I'm done with words. I wish it was consistent. What is certain is that we will not be dragged into the guerrilla war." It is said that Conte is ready to replace Iv with a group of "responsibles". "But no, I work hand in hand. Conte is a serious person. Average as far as it can." Average a lot. "I was used to Prodi, but I assure you that Conte surpasses him. I called myself a Gandhian, not to quarrel over #8217; differentiated autonomy, but Conte is beyond Gandhi." But every patience has a limit. "The limit is when you risk crashing into the wall. We are at a stage where only voters have the right to raise their voices. This country will change when it becomes clear that, in addition to realizing the season of duties dear to Moro, the season of blackmail will be over. The real question now is: will we start again tomorrow morning or do we continue with the aut-auts?' Probably the second. "Today I was in Power and they didn't ask me what I thought of the prescription, but how we raise the South." But in the Senate there are risks of not having iv's votes. "The votes will be there. Also because inside Iv there are very responsible people." Are they split? "I say that those who were elected with the votes of the Pd cannot fail to be responsible. And the first is Renzi." Does it rule out a Ter Count? "I rule it out. #8217 The alternative to this government is to give the president the floor. And resurrect the sovereignist right." Will distrust of Bonafede be the end of everything? "It would be the first time in history that a minister has been distrusted just because he does not accept a #8217;imposition. It would be a distrust of the whole government. I said #8217 to him, Alfonso, we are a serious party of people, we have a unique voice and we are with you." The Movement is restless, of struggle and of government: today it protests against the vitals. "I respect their phase of labor and hope that the General States will soon do so. Because what happens in the Movement also affects the government and the legislature." The article Government, Boccia: “Our straight-backed reaction because we risk crashing” comes from the Democratic Party.